Why was limbo such a big deal if you can just kill yourself to get out. If it was a weak sedative the dream would collapse easily. 5 and 6 I dont think are important, there are many possibilities. Ive only seen the movie once, I think I need to watch it again because the whole limbo thing wasnt crystal clear to me. One day Mal and Cobb experiment on the dream machine and over sedate themselves. If you die in Limbo, you just wake up in the real world (if you died in the other dreams as well). Fischer was simply supposed to go to the safe (in level 3, not Limbo) and discover the paper fan. One way you know it is all a dream is that there are compartments on the Shinkansen train. Without a subpoena, voluntary compliance on the part of your Internet Service Provider, or additional records from a third party, information stored or retrieved for this purpose alone cannot usually be used to identify you. If limbo is supposed to be a shared space why does only Cobs show up. Since Limbo is on the 4th layer, 1 hour would be 50 years or so (if the factor 10 for speeding up time is correct). To share what i see Inception , Pingback: Most of your facts arent plot holes but our lack of paying attention to the movie. As it is now I every time I see them link up dreams I end up yelling WHAT IS CAUSING THE LINK! Cobb may have died because of events in level 1, but he was in level 4 when it happened. Surely if his competitor was rich enough to BUY the airline hed have his own private jet, otherwise he wouldnt be rich enough to cause the asian guy so much worry that hed have to resort to larking about in fairy land and planting pretty ideas? How do Cobb and Ariadne enter Limbo without having to die? No, if you die you wake up thats how Cobb woke Arthur up in that first dream sequence. Cobbs team usually extracts secrets from the Subjects mind from this safe. (Marion Cotillard) Cobbs dead wife who manifests in the many dreams. Mal even believes her kids are only a projection. This one was hers. How did Cobb and Mal commit suicide while young in limbo if they lived decades there? 2) maybe the medication was too strong to wake up even with a kick. I remember a part in the movie that said if any team member died in the dreamworld then they would die in waking Reality (i.e. while travelling on the plane). ), 3) so that they had more time and to create a more stable dream, 4) yes, agree: the dream sequences are very much like reality and not dream-like. Eames has mastered the art of imaging things which is why he could morph into other people. Cobb did know it would work since he did it to Mal. Id call spoiler alert for those who havent seen Inception yet, but honestly, this flowchart from graphic designer Sean Mort will just confuse you anyways. Dreams feel real when youre in them so to have bullets with no physics and guns that dont exist would lead to projections hunting down the dreamer as it would be quite obvious that someone was screwing around with the dream. After Saito dies on the third dream level, he enters limbo. I HAVE ONE QUESTION THOUGH would love it if someone could answer this. Why is it so crucial to get out of the level at that time, other than limbo? However, what Cobb has done unknowingly is, the idea he incepts in Mals mind (safe) is now with her even after Mal has woken up. not to mention the way gravity behaves in DL 2 is completely inaccurate as it is a consistent force of gravity they show in DL2 just in different directions as apposed to the very large changes in force that would have been applied to the bodies in the van crash, which should have caused them to experience the forces of a car crash in DL2 (In DL2 of Saltos dream a simple smack sends Cobb across the room??) All Fischer would recollect is that he had a crazy dream, and he is left with the revelation that his father wanted him to be his own man, and Fischer will now want to close down his fathers firm and start something of his own. Ariadne(Ellen Page, now Eliot) The young girl is the Architect for the multi-level dreams. In the end, the top wobbles, which means its eventually going to stop. With the crews help, the team drugs Fisher and enter a shared dream with him. Inception Explained: Unraveling The Dream Within The Dream One of these days he may even finish the screenplay he's been threatening to write for so long. Remember Cobb opened the save in his limbo with Mal, and he spinned the totem? A Totem is an object carried by everyone to tell them if they are in a dream or real life. The main issue Cobb has is he convinced her that Limbo was not real (thus his first inadvertant try at INCEPTION) so they would kill eachother to escape, but she carried that feeling (that everything wasnt real), into reality. Is it possible to "get" quaternions without specifically postulating them? Why doesnt Fischer recognize anybody on the flight? Good explanations it seems as if the person who wrote this didnt understand the movie and simply mistook it for a simple action movie, All the other things I could understand and wrap my head around. This also leads me to believe that cobb probably spent about 5-10 years looking for Saito given he died so close the the end of the mission and 5-10 years would match his appearance at the end. Make great charts. The projections in the second dream suck. Rules surrounding Limbo and also for leaving Limbo too. This doubt meant that Mal was persuaded to escape Limbo by her husband. I saw this on twitter, makes me happy that people are seeing my work. Heres a detailed breakdown of that last scene and how we can know for sure if it is happening inside of a dream or reality . You only go to limbo if you die and cannot wake up such as being sedated. 8 Was Saito aware that he is in limbo ?? Was Mal's case an exception? He also posts the occasional rant about movies on Twitter @Jakarta2354 to anyone who will read them. To find where to stream any movie or series based on your country, use This Is Barrys Where To Watch. In this case, they will not remember clearly how they got there and what they were doing before that (e.g., when Saito dies and reaches Limbo, he ends up living there for many years, not realizing where he is). Still believing that she was dreaming, Mal jumped out of a hotel window. This works as a Synchronized Kick for Fischer and wakes him up by one level. Still. Now, in amulti-level dream,people are under a powerful sedative, and aSingle Kickis not enough to wake them up. now we are told the sedative still lets you feel tipping, falling ect and the sedative is only applied in real time that we know of. You can't party warp into Limbo! Totems aret programmed for just other peoples dream. What connects the dreamer with the attackers? Mal believed so strongly that their world was not real that she informed the authorities that Cobb was responsible for her death before committing suicide. You can wake up without a kick, they probably just laid low in level 1 until they woke up naturally. If one dies in a heavily sedated, multi-level dream, they will be hurled into Limbo. They wake up completely normal. Other than heat, Calculate metric tensor, inverse metric tensor, and Cristoffel symbols for Earth's surface. Otherwise, a really cool graphic. Cobb and Ariadne go down a level with Fischer, into Limbo, to save him. Limbo - Wikipedia And plus, he wasnt under sedation during that dream. 2) They said in the movie that they would have to wait there for a week, and by then they would have been killed and ended up in limbo. Due to the mind-bending nature of Christopher Nolan's film, it's easy to lose track of how Mal and Cobb even managed to reach Limbo in Inception. A quick 2 min explanation and an injection into Ellen Pages character and I am 100% on board for this movie. The music cues the team in the lower level to perform a Kick and synchronize with the level above. I understand this could be due to the sedation but if thats true then the end of the movie really isnt the end. Label for topmost level should probably be Reality?, Pingback: they didnt need a kick on the plane because they would wake up when the dream machines timer went off. However, we know that he planted in Mal's mind the idea that the Limbo was not real, and that's why they commited suicide and returned to "real life". (strong sedative), they end up in a dream state called Limbo. I theorize that since Yusuf was in charge of the first Dream level, he did not need heavy sedation like the other individuals. Unfortunately, due to Cobbs Inception, even in the real world, Mal continues to believe that her world is not real and she needs to kill herself to wake up. That said, I still have a hard time believing they were able to hide for the entire week in the first level after escaping the van. When you arrive in limbo, you dont know you are in limbo and think it is reality. In addition to this, if I remember correctly, before Cobb and Ariadne go into level 4, they hook Fischer up to the dream machine. Last year, Mr. bos 1. often Limbo Roman Catholic Church The abode of unbaptized but innocent or righteous souls, as those of infants or virtuous individuals who. That bugged me more than anything else in the movie. Why does the chemist create the stronger, potentially mind-mushing chemical in the first place? - Panther Jul 13, 2015 at 7:09 He would only forget if he suffers from amnesia due to old age. Remember, when (about 48th minute of the film) Cobb and Ariadne were discussing totems: Dying in dream is a kick & wakes you up, one layer anyway. Ariadne kicked, she didnt die Cobb states that there is a safe house at every dream level, which gets populated with the innermost thoughts and secrets of the Subject. But due to Time Dilation, in Limbo, this is many years. There is a popular Inception theory with the wedding ring (Cobbs ring is oninside dreams and isoffin reality, and at the airport, Cobb is not wearing a ring hence that is reality). Level 1 (first dream) - "Van Chase" - dreamed by Yusef on the plane. To save saito they should have just told him to do wait for the kick to get out. She was a projection, not a real person. In limbo, for the person dreaming it could seem like an eternity and even after the sedative wears off, the person has to make the decision themselves to wake up. You can wake up! How do Cobb and Ariadne enter Limbo without having to die? yet a van crash just turns the room around?? The number six is my biggest issue with the movie. This will cause two kicks to synchronize. Fiscer isnt old because he was in Limbo for maybe an hour. (Tom Hardy) The impersonator in the multi-level dream. And billionaires would presumably be aware of the threat of mind-melding and have some kind of defense system (a bodyguard or crash helmet perhaps? This safe represents Mals innermost subconscious and the perpetually spinning top indicated a fake world. Dual Movie Ending: Who Survived? Likewise, Saito did because of events in level 1 but died in level 3. So, were I to modify it, I would remove the line connecting Cobb in level 1 to Cobb in limbo and instead connect Cobb in level 4 to Cobb in limbo. some evidence for this is at beginning Arthur gets killed in the dream with in a dream and simply kicks back to dream level 1. not the whole way back to real time sure he was not sedated but he only went back 1 level is the point. They didnt have Fischer, his subconscious wouldnt chase them. 4. Waiting periods. It had been previously explained that to die in a sedative-assisted dream would cause one's subconscious to enter limbo (and this is in fact what happened to Saito). 8. those who say how could cobb create his own dream so fast with detail remember he was a very skilled architect and he already had made a similar world in limbo you CAN create straight from memory but you shouldnt ( remember cobb convo with ariane in paris). Fischer owns a private Jet, but very briefly they explain that it has technical issues and you can see him walking from his jet to the commercial jet. As you can imagine, the process of Inception is fundamentally far more complicated because the victim needs to believe that the idea is their ownand not planted into their mind. Cobb and Saito would have to stay there for hundreds of years longer. They didnt know if it would work, they were trying to do it. I really think I got this one. Cobb states that there is a safe house at every dream level, which gets populated with the innermost thoughts and secrets of the Subject. did the sedative wear off? when cobb agrees to stay in limbo, he says, saitos dead by now. this was one of MY problems with the movie theres no way cobb couldve actually known saito was dead before deciding to stay in limbo. Does an attacker need a device implanted in their head to link up to a victim/target? 3. It is simply not possible. Who was the old man at the end? This looks so much fun! HOW exactly does everyone wake up on the plane from the first (rainy) level (Yusufs dream). Cobb uses it since he didnt know Fiscer would have a militarized mind, therefore no danger. I thought if you die in a dream, you go to limbo. Why didn't Saito kill himself when he was stuck in limbo? Basically they amount to: 1. So you would need to die right when the kick happened. Who dreams which levels? Here are examples to illustrate the two options. If the guns arent realistic, the subconscious would know something was created thats not real that it didnt create and would try to find them. when cobb and mal are in limbo how does cobb realise they are ?? Here's how Mal and Cobb got there. When we look in the hotel room we see all the people in the dream floating because of the car in the previous dream. Mals mind is incepted with the idea that her world is not real, and she needs to kill herself to wake up.